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The charade behind a 2017 EU referendum
"The date earmarked for the referendum, 2017, is however not only impractical but indeed impossible, this is if he really does want to present to the public the results of his proposed renegotiations..
"David Cameron’s promise of a referendum on EU membership, according to his timetable, is set to take place in 2017 following the conclusion of negotiations on reforming the European Union or changing Britain’s terms of EU membership. This is unlikely even if he is Prime Minister after the next election.
"In the Prime Minister’s so-called Bloomberg Speech, David Cameron set out his commitment to staying in the EU’s Single Market but through negotiations delivering five significant changes. These are competitiveness through less regulation, flexibility by allowing countries to opt-out of EU rules, a return of powers to member states, democratic accountability with a greater role for national parliaments and finally fairness.
"In short exiting from the political aspects of the EU and only keeping the economic links. On a political level this will appeal to many. The date earmarked for the referendum, 2017, is however not only impractical but indeed impossible, this is if he really does want to present to the public the results of his proposed renegotiation.
"The timescales, with discussions in earnest beginning after the general election, does not allow for any negotiations to deliver any tangible results by 2017. What is more, to change the terms of membership requires treaty change and under EU on how this is conducted it is highly unlikely that Cameron’s objectives will even be on the table. He will not control the agenda of an Intergovernmental Conference, the convention that is required to change the EU’s constitution.
"And even if other EU leaders were like minded any cursory understanding of treaty negotiations shows that they take years to complete. The process of discussions between the heads of state and government in the EU will alone take three years and that is before the equally lengthy process of ratification begins in each member state.
"Surely David Cameron understands this. Why then has David Cameron settled on the date of 2017?
"David Cameron can deliver a new relationship with the EU but not through staying in the EU but by exiting
The charade behind a 2017 EU referendum. "
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